… Alicia Pérez-Porro (APP) became an IIED trustee in 2021. She is a marine biologist and scientific coordinator of CREAF , a Spanish ecology research centre focused on global change and biodiversity. Mary Robinson (MR) is a former chair of IIED's … I remember, you know, thinking of two different concepts at the time: climate change and justice. And it’s interesting that’s the title. It …